Monday, April 19, 2010

FW: Ngati Tamatera Hui arramgements

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Liane Ngamane [mailto:liane.ngamane@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:39 p.m.
To: savak@tpk.govt.nz; larn.w@hotmail.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz; michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; Barry Wickliffe; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
Cc: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz
Subject: RE: Ngati Tamatera Hui arramgements

Kia ora 
 
1. At the bottom, add the contact:
 
    Larn Wilkinson 07 862 7922
 
2. Agenda/Kaupapa part, amend the para "If the hui, agrees...." to
 
"If the hui agrees, it will also elect two interim negotiators and discuss, and vote, if necessary, on related issues such as alternate negotiators, accountabilities and structure for negotiations."
 
3. The last paragraph of the draft ad is definetly not the same wording as the previous Tamatera hui. It appears to introduce new eligibility criteria that were not imposed by the Crown in relation to previous Hui A Iwi of Tamatera and other hui. This is unreasonable and unfair particularly given it was never discussed. I think we would be happy for the eligibility component to revert back to the original Tamatera ad in preference to the current drafting. Our sign off is subject to receiving a copy of that original ad to enable us t o compare and confirm that.
 
When we receive a copy of the original ad we can sign off the amendment. There are no other amendments from the Runanga spokesperson so therefore it would then be good to go subject to the above. I appreciate that you are not in the office but there must be some way of getting a copy of the original to us as a matter of urgency.
 
If the Runanga spokesperson makes any further changes then we want to be provided with a copy in order to approve any further changes. A final circulation with all amendments for sign off would be the best way.
 
Liane 

 
> From: savak@tpk.govt.nz
> Subject: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:19:10 +1300
> To: liane.ngamane@hotmail.com; larn.w@hotmail.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz; michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; barry@tamatera.org.nz; pakinga@wav e.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> CC: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz
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> Kia ora,
> Could you please send us details of a contact to add - perhaps Larn as a marae contact?
> We thought the line about other resolutions being able to be tabled covered all other resolutions.
> The whakapapa part is consistent with other ads.
> The deadlines are different for nz herald only or other papers as well. Like you, we are keen for the hui to be as well publised as possible.
> Neither toby nor I are in the office today so will be difficult to send you previous ads but will see what I can do.
> Kererua
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Liane Ngamane" <liane.ngamane@hotmail.com>
> To: "larn.w@hotmail.com" <larn.w@hotmail.com>; "eungatimaru@wave.co.nz" <eungatimaru@wave.co.nz>; "ganlt@tpk.govt.nz" <ganlt@tpk.govt.nz>; "michael.dreaver@paradise.net. nz" <michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz>; "tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz" <tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz>; "don.baker@newmont.com" <don.baker@newmont.com>; "Barry Wickliffe" <barry@tamatera.org.nz>; "pakinga@wave.co.nz" <pakinga@wave.co.nz>; "johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz" <johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz>
> Cc: "karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz" <karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz>; "whitt@tpk.govt.nz" <whitt@tpk.govt.nz>; "savak@tpk.govt.nz" <savak@tpk.govt.nz>
> Sent: 15/04/10 11:59 a.m.
> Subject: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
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> Kia ora
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> Can I please be specific on what our concerns are and what our concerns are based on;
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> 1. Contact details and whose contact details.
> 2. No reference to the additional matters I wrote down at the hui we attended .
> 3. The eligibility statement seems to have come out of nowhere. I cannot recall that being a Crown bottomline beforehand. Tob y or Kererua please forward with urgency the previous public notice that was advertised for the Tamatera Hui A Iwi in November and December last year so that I can compare.
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> I note Larns comment around the deadlines for the NZ Herald so the 10am deadline does seem to be arbitrary. When I asked at the meeting this week whether 10 working days included weekends I was advised that yes it did. If that is the case then the Weekend deadline is not that stringent although it would be good to give as much notice as possible. It is important that we get the wording right.
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> Liane
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> From: larn.w@hotmail.com
> To: eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz; liane.ngamane@hotmail.com; michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; barry@tamatera.org.nz; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> CC: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz
> Subje ct: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:52:29 +1200
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> There are a few concerns that we have about the advertisment so please forward it on to us to go over and look at.
> There will be more than one contact adress and details included thank you.
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> From: eungatimaru@wave.co.nz
> To: ganlt@tpk.govt.nz; liane.ngamane@hotmail.com; michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; larn.w@hotmail.com; barry@tamatera.org.nz; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> CC: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz
> Subject: Re: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:42:58 +1200
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> Kia ora Toby,
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> For the last part of the panui have the contact as :Winn Brownlee 07 862 6079.
>
> ----- Original M essage -----
> From: Toby Ganley
> To: Liane Ngamane ; michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz ; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz ; don.baker@newmont.com ; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz ; larn.w@hotmail.com ; Barry Wickliffe ; pakinga@wave.co.nz ; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> Cc: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz ; Tom White ; Kererua Savage
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:48 PM
> Subject: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
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> Kia ora,
> We need confirmation re the ad by 10am tomorrow morning. As soon as we have confirmation we will make arrangements for the panui to be printed in the newspapers.
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> Nga mihi,
> toby
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>
> From: Liane Ngamane [mailto:liane.ngamane@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 4:37 p.m.
> To: michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; larn.w@hotmail.com; Barry Wickliffe; pakinga@wa ve.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> Cc: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; Tom White; Kererua Savage; Toby Ganley
> Subject: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
>
> Mike
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> I made no such agreement around the Runanga Chair I voiced my concern and it looked to me to be a new bottomline. I did not agree to it.
>
> I understand the Marae Chairs concern regarding the Runanga Chair. You successfully get the resolutions the Crown needs and that is it. The remainder is for Tamatera to determine in accord with Tamatera kawa. I am glad this has been acknowledged.
>
> As I advised at the hui, in my view the arrangements at the marae for the hui are best left with our marae. I am aware that Uncle Tewi is a trustee (and also a kaumatua trustee of the Runanga) and that Larn is the current Chair (and also a member of our committee). It seems the interests of both Tamatera factions (as you have previously called then) are met working through our marae. I would however await the view of the marae as to whether they are willing to manage this hui arrangement and to receive confirmation as to the availability of the marae.
>
> Then that leaves the wording of the advertisement which was not agreed upon at the hui. Thanks for the draft. Our committee will look at it and make any amendments if required. Toby can you please advise when you need any amendments by.
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> Liane
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> From: michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz
> To: michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; liane.ngamane@hotmail.com; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; larn.w@hotmail.com; barry@tamatera.org.nz; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> CC: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz
> Subject: RE: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:16:20 +1200
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> Further to this email we have managed to secure $1750 from TePuni Kōkiri as a contribution to the costs of the hui - catering etc. I take it this will cover (most of the) costs. Responsibility for receiving and spending it to be agreed and advised to me asap please.
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> From: Mike Dreaver [mailto:michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 7:22 a.m.
> To: 'Liane Ngamane'; 'tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz'; 'don.baker@newmont.com'; 'eungatimaru@wave.co.nz'; 'larn.w@hotmail.com'; 'Barry Wickliffe'; 'pakinga@wave.co.nz'; 'johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz'
> Cc: 'karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz'; 'whitt@tpk.govt.nz'; 'savak@tpk.govt.nz'; 'ganlt@tpk.govt.nz'
> Subject: Ngāti Tamaterā Hui arramgements
>
> Thanks for attending the hui yesterday morning. The decisions you made were:
>
> - Interim mandate hui to take place on 2 May 2010 at 10.00 am at Te Pai o Hauraki.
& gt;
> - Resolutions to be the same as those from previous hui, with outcome being that two interim negotiators are authorised to begin negotiating with Crown and attending Hauraki and Tāmaki Collectives. (Te Puni Kōkiri to circulate.)
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> - Voting on the election of the two interim negotiators to be by a process that ensures accurate count and that each person votes only once for their favoured two candidates.
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> - Voting to be by all those in attendance with Ngāti Tamaterā whakapapa, and only by those with Ngāti Tamaterā whakapapa.
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> - Advertisement to include a catch-all phrase noting that there may be other resolutions tabled. (This allows issues such as accountability of negotiators, appointment of alternates in the event the two elected negotiators cannot attend) to be addressed.
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> - Advertisement to be circulated today by Te Puni Kōkiri and placed by Te Puni Kōkiri in newspapers this weekend.
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& gt; - Hui to be chaired by Te Runanga o Ngāti Tamaterā.
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> - Hui to be facilitated by an independent facilitator appointed by Te Puni Kōkiri.
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> - CCN to revert to attendees on how to meet the costs of catering and perhaps a marquee for the front of the marae if there is overflow.
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> Yesterday afternoon I was phoned by Larn Wilkison who I understand is the interim marae chair for Te Pai o Hauraki. Larn was concerned that I had decided the hui must to be chaired by the Runanga and that this involved a unilateral imposition on my part and trod on Ngāti Tamaterā kawa. Larn made it clear to me that he expects as interim marae chair to be opening and closing the hui.
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> This is a matter on which I have no strong view, and it is not a matter for me to decide. I want to stress that I did not impose a decision on Runanga being chair for the hui but followed the consensus from yesterday's hui which included Uncle Tewi. I have be en a Crown agent in the Māori world for almost two decades and I am well aware of where the limits of my proper authority and influence lie.
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> As for the specific issue, it is important that this issue does not distract from the common objective which is to ensure Ngāti Tamaterā holds a successful hui and is able to elect two interim negotiators to join the negotiators if that is the will of the people. I am confident that the Runanga and the interim marae chair will liaise to resolve this issue in a mature and respectful way that accords with Ngati Tamatera kawa.
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> Mike
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> From: Mike Dreaver [mailto:michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 12 April 2010 5:39 p.m.
> To: 'Liane Ngamane'; 'tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz'; 'don.baker@newmont.com'; 'eungatimaru@wave.co.nz'; 'larn.w@hotmail.com'; 'Barry Wickliffe'; 'pakinga@wave.co.nz'; 'johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz'
> Cc: 'k aryn.martin@xtra.co.nz'; 'whitt@tpk.govt.nz'; 'savak@tpk.govt.nz'; 'ganlt@tpk.govt.nz'
> Subject: RE: Ngati Tamatera
>
> My apologies to all. I have been in a Ngāti te Ata mediation all day and due to a miscommunication wit TPK they thought I was to send the details out. My bad. I understand you now have the details for the hui so I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.,
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> Mike
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> From: Liane Ngamane [mailto:liane.ngamane@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 12 April 2010 4:29 p.m.
> To: michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; larn.w@hotmail.com; Barry Wickliffe; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> Cc: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz
> Subject: RE: Ngati Tamatera
>
> Kia ora
>
> Is this meeting as proposed below going ahead? We have heard nothing from TPK in relation to confirming the venue as yet. Are you Mike or someone from TPK able to advise as soon as possible please. Please either email back or you can contact me on 027217878 or 07 8688439 (home).
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> Nga Mihi
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> Liane
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> From: michael.dreaver@paradise.net.nz
> To: liane.ngamane@hotmail.com; tumuaki@tamatera.org.nz; don.baker@newmont.com; eungatimaru@wave.co.nz; larn.w@hotmail.com; barry@tamatera.org.nz; pakinga@wave.co.nz; johnm@hauraki-dc.govt.nz
> CC: karyn.martin@xtra.co.nz; whitt@tpk.govt.nz; savak@tpk.govt.nz; ganlt@tpk.govt.nz
> Subject: RE: Ngati Tamatera
> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:50:26 +1200
>
> I have been advised by the Runanga that the attempt to arrange a small group to organise a mandate hui was not successful in that only one side showed up. The Runanga has confirmed it does wish to proceed with a third attempt to hold an interim mandate hui as requested by the Crown and as seven other Hauraki have already done. Nine Iwi are now participating in the Collective and are making very good progress. Ngāti Tara Tokanui will be holding a second interim mandate hui this Sunday. I am concerned to ensure that as soon as possible, all 12 Hauraki Iwi have the opportunity to participate constructively in the Collective negotiations if that is their wish.
>
> I also met yesterday with Liane and Lane and four Ngāti Tara Tokanui and Ngāti Hako Iwi members and confirmed that the Crown's expectation is still that each Iwi will hold one hui at which two interim negotiators will be appointed to attend and participate in the Hauraki Collective. That is, the hui will elect the interim negotiators.
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> I would therefore like to convene a meeting next week in south Auckland at which the logistical arrangements for the Ngāti Tamaterā interim mandate hui will be agreed and arrangemen ts put in place to lodge publicity etc. I would like this hui to take place next Tuesday 13 April at 9.30 am. Te Puni Kōkiri will advise the venue.
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> Mike
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